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Public Utilities and Technology Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

    
PUBLIC UTILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY INTERIM COMMITTEE

June 18, 1997 - 9:00 p.m. - Room 223 State Capitol


Members Present:
    Sen. Lorin v. Jones, Co-Chair
    Rep. Beverly Ann Evans, Co-Chair
    Sen. Mike Dmitrich
    Sen. John P. Holmgren
    Sen. Alarik Myrin
    Rep. Jeff Alexander
    Rep. Ralph Becker
    Rep. Orville D. Carnahan
    Rep. Gary F. Cox
    Rep. Christine R. Fox
    Rep. Brent H. Goodfellow
    Rep. Byron L. Harward
    Rep. Tom Hatch
    Rep. J. Brent Haymond
    Rep. Dennis H. Iverson
    Rep. David M. Jones
    Rep. Jack Seitz
    Rep. Daniel H. Tuttle


Members Absent:
    
Sen. Craig A. Peterson

Staff Present:
    Mr. Richard North,
     Research Analyst
    Ms. Tani Pack Downing,
     Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Wendy Bangerter,
     Committee Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.        Call To Order

    
Sen. Jones called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m.

MOTION:    
Rep. Carnahan moved to approve the minutes of May 21, 1997. The motion passed unanimously.
            
2.        Statewide Partnership For Telecommunication Services -Request For Proposal: Schematics, Existing Fiber Optic Cable.
            

    Mr. Gordon Peterson, Chief Information Officer for the State of Utah, introduced Rayleen Ireland, Executive Director of Administrative Services, and John Stucki, ITS Strategic Network Planner. Mr. Peterson reviewed the guiding principles included in his handout, Community Networks. He explained the two ways that are being used to provide the seamless networks to homes, government agencies, and businesses: 1) by using the anchor-tenant concept of government buying power, and 2) encouraging the development of integrated community networks. He reviewed the Request for Proposal (RFP) for Telecommunication Partnering and

indicated the biggest concern is the rural areas where 90-95% of the connectivity is through U.S. West. In that regard, he said part of the role of government is to ensure all individuals have the opportunity to be properly connected to the new network world and that Utah is well-positioned to take advantage of being properly configured to provide all residents connectivity. According to Mr. Peterson, this RFP focuses on the needs of the citizens as opposed to the state's needs and he emphasized the state needs to have a competition and choice.

    Rayleen Ireland, stated her purpose in being present is to address concerns the Committee has about the state's network. She said that the department fully supports the guiding principles in the RFP and emphasized the state does not have an extensive telecommunication system nor did she see a situation where the state would emerge as a competitor. She noted that the state's resources would play a role in helping to bring about the opportunity for more choice and competition.

    John Stucki, ITS, Strategic Network Planner, testified that ITS acts as a broker and coordinator to combine the needs of all state agencies. He stated they purchase telecommunication services from public providers by issuing RFP's to the private sector and asking them to bid competitively to supply the state's needs. He explained the division's plan to avoid duplicative costs by arranging a public/private partnership where telecommunication companies would have an opportunity to take advantage of I-15 reconstruction reduce the cost for everyone. He noted the focus of ITS was not the conduit along the interstate as much as providing broad-band, multi-media capabilities to state agencies. He explained the fiber optic backbone and referred to a map showing where fiber optic and digital microwave lines exist for the Utah Exchange carriers. He reviewed the hub sites and the current fiber optic configuration.

    Gordon Peterson explained the newly formed Utah Telecommunications Coordinating Committee (UTCC), who the members are, and their function. He stated their charge is to help develop the optimum government networking in Utah using the guidelines.

    Kevin Taylor, US West, drew on Mr. Stucki's map the location of U S West's fiber optic lines between Logan and St. George, as well as proposed lines going east from Salt Lake City. He stated there are four fiber optic systems that have been built by companies other than U S West. He stated U S West has not come even close to using their lines to full capacity. He stated their feeling is that the free market should drive the growth of infrastructure.

    Rep. Goodfellow expressed concern the Legislature is being asked to make decisions to run new fiber lines as requested in the RFP, but legislators don't know where the existing lines are and companies are hesitant to divulge that information.
    
    Dennis Wood, U S West stated that U S West supports the Federal Communication Commission (FCC) mandate that was passed last year, but it was challenged in court on the basis of the default pricing mechanism. He indicated U S West is not opposed to the concept of interconnection and that it is presently available. He noted the law that was passed in Utah in 1995 required the final rules to be adopted by the Public Service Commission (PSC).

    Sen. Jones advised that the committee would like to bring this issue back to the next meeting and invite the other competitors to be present and give their testimony.

3.    Update: Competitive Market Telecommunication Issues
    

    Sen. Jones moved to item five on the agenda since one of the speakers for item three was not present.
        
4.     Information Technology: Tax Review Commission Recommendations
    
    Mr. Gary Cornia, Tax Review Commission, reviewed the taxation of telecommunication and stated the position of the TRC is to look for ways to broaden the base and lower rates. He suggested the Legislature wait since there is proposed model legislation being drafted.     

5.     Federal Communication Comm.: Access & Universal Service Fund Ruling
            
    David LaFrance, Telecommunication Analyst for the PSC, distributed a handout and Gave an overview of the FCC report and order in the matter of the federal-state joint board on Universal Service docket no. 96-45. He reviewed changes in the most recent order and recent definitions of the ruling. He discussed high cost funding.

    Sandy Mooy, Legal Counsel for the PSC, reviewed the FCC report and order in the matter of the federal-state joint board on Universal Service Docket No. 96-45. He explained price cap regulation and how it impacts businesses as well as residents.

6.    Natural Gas Service To Unserved Rural Areas: Draft Legislation

    Representative Tom Hatch introduced Charles Greenhawt, Legal Counsel Division for Mountain Fuel Supply, who reviewed the draft legislation authorizing PSC to allow natural gas service into unserved rural areas.

    Rep. Hatch asked for the endorsement of the committee.

    Claire Geddes, Director, United We Stand, expressed concern about this legislation and the subsidy. She noted that the subsidy is going to the company and not necessarily to help rural Utah.
    
    Sen. Jones suggested holding this issue and reviewing it further at the next meeting.

MOTION:
    Rep. Hatch moved for the Committee to adopt this as a committee bill.

SUBSTITUTE MOTION:
        Sen. Jones made a substitute motion to hold any action on this item until next meeting. He noted that there is other similar legislation and asked the committee to consider giving themselves time to look at this bill. The substitute motion passed with Iverson, Holmgren, and Hatch voting in opposition and Senator Craig Peterson absent for the vote.

7.    Electrical Deregulation And Customer Choice Task Force Update
    
    
Sen. Jones asked for this item to be held to the next meeting. There was no opposition.

8.    Adjourn

MOTION:    Rep. Cox made a motion to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously.

    The meeting was adjourned at 12:00 noon.


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