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Workforce Services Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

WORKFORCE SERVICES INTERIM COMMITTEE

            June 18, 1997 - 2:00 p.m. - Room 414 State Capitol



Members Present:
    Sen. Robert F. Montgomery, Chair
    Rep. Orville D. Carnahan, Chair
    Sen. Lorin V. Jones
    Sen. Robert M. Muhlestein
    Sen. Millie M. Peterson
    Rep. Jeff Alexander
    Rep. Sheryl L. Allen
    
    
    Members Absent:
    Rep. Margaret Dayton
    Rep. J. Brent Haymond
    Sen. Blaze D. Wharton




    Rep. Steve Barth
    Rep. Duane Bourdeaux
    Rep. Lloyd W. Frandsen
    Rep. Brent H. Goodfellow
    Rep. Bryan D. Holladay
    Rep. Nora B. Stephens
         
    Staff Present:

    Arthur L. Hunsaker, Research Analyst
    R. Chet Loftis, Associate General Counsel
    Barbara A. Teuscher, Legislative Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting is on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.    Call to Order and Approval of Minutes of May 21, 1997
    
    
Chair Carnahan called the meeting to order at 2:40 p.m.

     MOTION: Rep. Holladay moved to approve the minutes of May 21, 1997. The motion passed unanimously.
    
2.    Overview - of Child Care

    Ms. Pat Kreher, Director, Office of Child Care, distributed handouts from which she gave her presentation. She presented background information on the Office of Child Care and highlighted most programs that are available. Ms. Kreher said a great majority of child care in Utah is for profit. The subsidies that are available do not go to child care directly but to parents who qualify for assistance.

    Mr. Greg Gardner, currently Director of Job Training, informed the committee that, starting July 1, he will be Division Director of Workforce Information and Payment Services. He briefly discussed child care and child care providers.     

    Ms. Kerher indicated that the Office of Child Care's focus will be on employer outreach programs and the division will be developing ideas toward that goal. She said paying for the actual cost of child care is not possible for low income families, and that subsidies received from the government need to serve as many people as possible.

    Committee discussion followed Ms. Kerher's presentation.

3.    Early Childhood Initiative

        John Killoran, Coordinator, Early Childhood Special Education, Office of Education _


    Mr. Killoran acknowledged Ms. Julie Baker, Early Childhood Specialist and Director of the Family Center of the Office of Education, and Cathy Shaw, Director, Davis School District Early Childhood Education and Head Start Programs. He indicated that high quality programs have a major impact on early childhood and on the social and educational outcomes of young children and families.

    _ Ms. Baker discussed inter-agency transition support from community programs. She explained that the Office of Education is developing a comprehensive child care training program. This program will involve both preschool and daycare providers and teachers.

    _ Ms. Cathy Shaw informed committee members of what the Office of Education is doing for teachers in the program. She then discussed changes resulting from welfare reform and the drastic effect it has had on the Head Start program. In Utah, for FY 96, the program served forty-two hundred children through the Head Start program. Ms. Shaw noted that they have submitted two competitive grants and explained their intent. Committee discussion followed.

4.     Impact of Child Care Needs on Business _

    Mr. Peter Genereaux, Utah Information Technologies Association, discussed the employer, the community and the problem of having more available jobs than qualified people throughout the state. Mr. Genereaux said a skilled but unavailable workforce exists because of individuals staying home to provide home child care. Providing more child care in an organized manner would enable more qualified people to go back to work and alleviate the labor supply problem. Mr. Genereaux commented on productivity and how it is adversely affected because of child care concerns such as illness.

    Sen. Montgomery said in the technology field there is concern with having employees work at home performing a dual role of taking care of children while working on a home computer. He asked if businesses are gearing up for that kind of situation? Mr. Genereaux said yes, but that

employers have to devise telecommuting options. He indicated that there are a number of outreach programs offered by federal and state government.    
    

    Rep. Alexander expressed his concerns with the state developing extensive child care programs that might encourage parents to leave child care to others.

5.    Child Care Training Perspective --

    Ms. Marilyn Macumber, Director, Day Care Training and Consultation Program Training, distributed handouts. Ms. Macumber discussed the training perspective and the importance of using learning materials in teaching. She presented recommendations from the National Association for the Education of Young Children (NAEYC) and Cost, Quality and Child Outcomes in Child Care Centers Public Report (April 1995). Ms. Macumber said the Children's Center's training focuses on difficult, at risk children and toward understanding child development.

    Sen. Peterson said one of the focuses of the training center is parenting classes. She hoped that parenting classes and parenting skills would be part of the Center's training program.

    Rep. Frandsen referred to a meeting he attended at the Board of Education in which brain development within the first three years of a child was discussed. The role of quality day care was discussed and the huge difference it makes in the development of a child. He discussed what other states are doing on this issue.
         
6.    Child Care Provider Perspective

    
Ms. Chris Bray, Director, Child Care Connection, distributed handouts from which she gave her presentation. She shared the agency's mission statement with committee members and explained its function and process. She then presented an overview of what child care resource and referral is and what the agency entails. Ms. Bray indicated that quality child care and family care providers have identified key indicators. She highlighted each of the indicators and statistics compiled on a monthly basis by her agency. Ms. Bray informed the committee of many issues and areas that the agency is involved with and commented on the availability of infant care being the most difficult referral to fill. The agency is working with the ecumenical community to look at ways of dealing with this kind of referral.

    Sen. Jones stated that he was impressed with the programs presented but expressed concern with the suggestion that the state provide education, training, and care rather than parents. In his view, it points to more regulation and more training from a state level rather than a parental level.

    
    Rep. Barth said if the state can help assure parents that where they place their children is a safe healthy educating environment, that is what the state's role should be.

    Ms. Tracey Halverson, President, Professional Family Child Care Association, shared the association's mission statement with committee members. She expressed the importance of home providers needing education and training. Ms. Halverson said that regulations need to be tightened up such as an eight week course requirement.     
    

    Ms. Jill Young, Utah Private Child Care Association Board of Directors, filling in for Ms. Connie Saccomanno who was unable to attend the meeting, said the association believes a more positive image will help the child care industry, which can be accomplished through public awareness. Ms. Young read a prepared statement from Ms. Saccomanno. The letter indicated that moving child care licensing to the Department of Health is the right decision. She indicated that the Center is a strong advocate of training. Ms. Young concurred with comments made regarding parents working at home needing child care. She said the Center believes that it should be the parent's choice as to the type of education their children need and does not believe in a mandated type of education within the child care field.
    
7.    Ms. Pat Kreher, Director, Office of Child Care, summarized the previous presentations. She said Utah has a great need for available and affordable quality child care. Quality care comes from training and knowledge. One of the reasons Utah does not an have an adequate number of qualified, trained providers is because of funding. The dilemma is of affordability, accessibility, and availability. Ms. Kreher's recommendation is to have a comprehensive study group come up with recommendations in terms of initiatives for the state that would encompass all of the component parts and needs.
    
    Chair Carnahan suggested the committee revisit this issue at a later date if needed.

8.    Adjourn

    MOTION:
Sen. Peterson moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:00 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.


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