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Natural Resources, Agriculture, and Environment Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

NATURAL RESOURCES, AGRICULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT

INTERIM COMMITTEE

Wednesday, July 16, 1997 - 2:00 p.m. - Room 303 State Capitol



Members Present:
    Sen. Alarik Myrin, Senate Chair
    Rep. Bradley T. Johnson, House Chair
    Sen. R. Mont Evans
    Sen. Joseph L. Hull
    Rep. Eli H. Anderson
    Rep. Craig W. Buttars
    Rep. Mary Carlson
    Rep. Beverly A. Evans
    Rep. James R. Gowans
    Rep. Tom Hatch
    Rep. Dennis H. Iverson
    Rep. Evan L. Olsen
    Rep. Michael R. Styler
    Rep. Jordan Tanner
    Rep. Bill Wright


Members Excused:
    Sen. Craig A. Peterson
    Rep. Melvin R. Brown
    Rep. Daniel H. Tuttle

Staff Present:
    Constance C. Steffen,
        Research Analyst
    Jeanenne B. Larson,
        Associate General Counsel
    Joy L. Miller,
        Secretary




     Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.


1.    Committee Business - Chairman Johnson called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m. The committee scheduled September 4 and 5 for the field trip to southern Utah.

2.    Chaining and Reseeding After Wildlife Fires - Mr. Allen Rasmussen, Assistant Professor and Extension Range Specialist, Utah State University, gave a slide presentation of areas that have been affected by wildfires and discussed rehabilitation through chaining and reseeding. When sites are not reseeded within the first year after a fire, cheat grass invades the area. Once cheat grass is established, it is extremely competitive and crowds out most other plants. The advantage of chaining is that a great deal of ground can be covered quickly. Chaining covers three times the amount of acreage as can be treated with a drill. Steep, rocky terrain can also be covered by chaining. Mr. Rasmussen explained that there is a high amount of volatile oils in the needles of pinyon/juniper trees and underneath the trees. A fire will volatilize those oils which move into the soil and create a hydrophobic soil that is resistant to water penetration. That makes it very hard for anything else to establish underneath those plants. Chaining the area will break up the hydrophobic layer to make it easier for revegetation to occur.

    Mr. Richard Stevens, Division of Wildlife Resources, said over the last several years they

have treated approximately 200,000 acres of pinyon/juniper on private lands, state lands, wildlife lands, and Bureau of Land Management (BLM) forest lands. They have been able to stabilize the soils in those areas and preserve the water. Soils must be maintained for the protection of watersheds. Chaining can be used to remove unwanted weed species and can also be used to cover the seed. He discussed the species they have seeded. The division is putting its efforts into community restoration and native species.

    Mr. Steve Monson, Shrub Lab, U.S.D.A. Forest Service, distributed information on pinyon/juniper areas. He explained that pinyon/juniper, although native species, have increased in occupancy due to grazing and the lack of wildland fires. When trees gain dominance in an area, they tend to be suppressive to the under story and native vegetation is lost. If seeding is done, the seeds must be planted in the ground, not just thrown on the surface. He discussed the importance of watersheds and the effect pinyon/juniper have on them. Within a 100-year period of time as pinyon/juniper occupy a site, the area loses 5-6 inches of soil. Chaining and seeding distinctly reduces the amount of soil erosion and sedimentation in these areas. He stated that there is an active effort underway in developing native species that fit these sites. He said more time and effort should be spent in developing the native seed industry and the technologies to effectively plant these sites.

    Rep. Johnson distributed a letter from Professor Val Jo Anderson, Brigham Young University, who was on the agenda but was unable to attend the meeting.

    Rep. Iverson noted that a lawsuit filed by the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance has stopped progress being made with the chaining and revegetation process.

    The committee discussed what action could be taken to make the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance aware of all the facts regarding chaining and reseeding.

     MOTION: Rep. Hatch moved to support the U.S. Forest Service, Division of Wildlife Resources, Department of Agriculture, Utah State University, and the BLM in their efforts to reseed areas that have been devastated by fire. A letter of support from the committee stating the facts surrounding these efforts should be drafted and circulated. The motion passed unanimously. Reps. Carlson and Styler were absent during the vote.

     MOTION: Rep. Evans recommended working with the Society for Range Management and other organizations for a combined effort to promote the proper use of these methods. The motion passed unanimously. Reps. Carlson and Styler were absent during the vote.

     MOTION: Rep. Tanner moved to approve the minutes of June 18, 1997. The motion

passed unanimously. Rep. Carlson was absent during the vote.

3.    Environmental Laws - Compliance and Enforcement -
Mr. Brent Bradford, Department of Environmental Quality, stated that approximately one and one-half years ago the Environmental Council of the States signed a memorandum of agreement with the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) that created the National Performance Partnership System. The system was designed to bring states into partnership with EPA on administering environmental programs and to reduce or eliminate EPA oversight; however, EPA's creation of the Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assistance has caused the states many problems. He said there have been compliance situations in Utah where the state has taken an action, negotiated a solution amenable to both parties, and after a settlement EPA has proposed more severe penalties. By doing so, EPA weakens the department's ability to gain compliance. Mr. Bradford stated that EPA measures the success of environmental enforcement in the country by the number of penalties it has imposed. Experience indicates that the deterrent effect is not as significant as EPA believes it is. Compliance can be achieved more readily in many cases by working together and understanding the requirements. Mr. Bradford indicated the state should be allowed to deal with these issues as the delegated entity. The national performance partnership agreement Utah entered into provided that opportunity.

    Mr. Fred Nelson, Attorney General's Office, explained that federal and state laws establish three different types of penalties: 1) civil; 2) administrative; and 3) criminal. The administrative penalty is frequently imposed by EPA. A civil penalty must be obtained by a court order. Criminal penalties involve going before a grand jury and through the federal judicial system. The penalty process under the federal act is different from state law. The major difference is the nature and extent of the criminal penalties. Mr. Nelson expressed concern that most cases are being moved into the federal judicial system. He said his office believes the criminal penalty provisions in the air and water laws of the state of Utah should be revised.

    Mr. Bradford said the department is in the process of developing suggested language regarding criminal penalties to be proposed legislatively. He indicated that civil penalties should also be examined, but the department is not sure that increasing civil penalties is the answer.

4.    Agricultural Issues - Commissioner Cary Peterson, Department of Agriculture and Food, distributed an article concerning urban sprawl written by Henry Richmond who addressed the Utah Growth Summit a few years. According to Mr. Richmond, the amount of developed land in the United States is growing much faster than the population. As the total perimeter of a city grows, the cost of community services in comparison to the population grows disproportionately. As Utah's and the nation's population grows, agricultural land will not be adequate to support the population.

    Mr. Randy Parker, Department of Agriculture and Food, stated the largest single export from the U.S., totaling approximately $60 billion in the last two years, is agricultural and food products. During the last year, Utah's agricultural commodity and processed food exports exceeded $280 million, representing approximately 7 percent of Utah's total global trade. Agriculture accounts for over 100,000 jobs in the state of Utah of which 5,000 are directly tied to food and agriculture exports. Animal agriculture continues to be the foundation of Utah's commodity exports. Manufactured foods is the fastest growing area of international marketing in the state.

    Mr. Mike Marshall, Department of Agriculture and Food, discussed a new meat inspection program of the Division of Animal Industry. The new program, Pathogen Reduction - - Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP), requires each plant to have its own quality assurance program in place. State meat inspectors monitor the plants' programs. Quality assurance, corrective action, a better record-keeping system, education, training, and verification are all part of the new system.

    Mr. Marshall noted they must deal with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) which is very heavy-handed. He said Utah is losing its ability to help those in agriculture and asked for the committee's assistance to remedy the situation. If there is a way to change the way FDA deals with other agencies and the public, it should be adopted.

     MOTION: Rep. Buttars moved to adjourn the meeting at 5:30 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.


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