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Business, Labor, and Economic Development Interim Committee
MINUTES OF
BUSINESS, LABOR, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTERIM COMMITTEE
Wednesday, August 20, 1997 - 9:00 a.m. - Room 403 State Capitol
Members Present:
Sen. L. Steven Poulton, Chair
Rep. Peter C. Knudson, Chair
Sen. David L. Buhler
Sen. Eddie "Ed" P. Mayne
Sen. Michael G. Waddoups
Sen. Blaze D. Wharton
Rep. Gerry A. Adair
Rep. Eli H. Anderson
Rep. Patrice M. Arent
Rep. Steven Barth
Rep. Afton B. Bradshaw
Rep. Don E. Bush
Rep. Bradley T. Johnson
Rep. Brad King
Rep. David L. Zolman, Sr.
Members Absent:
Rep. Katherine M. Bryson
Rep. Glenn L. Way
Staff Present:
Mary Catherine Perry,
Research Analyst
Patricia Owen, Associate General Counsel
Beverlee LeCheminant,
Legislative Secretary
Note: Names of others present and copies of information distributed at the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.
1. Call to Order - Rep. Knudson called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m.
2.
Committee Business -
MOTION: Rep. Bush moved to approve the minutes of the July 16, 1997 meeting. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Barth, Johnson, and Zolman were absent for
the vote.
Rep. Knudson introduced Mr. Tom Hardy as the state's new Olympic Coordinator and Ms.
Loraine T. Pace as Rep. Fred Hunsaker's replacement in the House of Representatives.
3. Whistleblower Statutes - Rep. Bradshaw gave an overview of possible legislative options on statutory protection for whistleblowers. She indicated that she does not feel the committee has
had enough input on this issue and asked what action the committee would like to take.
Sen. Buhler said he agrees that a whistleblower law covering private employees is needed,
but he feels that the issue needs to be studied further. He suggested that a bill be sponsored by a
committee member forming a task force to study employee protection related to whistleblowing
during the 1998 interim for both the public and private sectors.
Rep. Arent said she agrees that this issue needs to be studied further, but is concerned that
it might not rise to a level to receive funding for a task force.
Rep. Bradshaw indicated that she has discussed this issue with leadership and their
suggestion was to create a task force.
Mr. John Preston Creer, Attorney at Law, stated that the state's whistleblower law for public
employees is a proven instrument and there is no reason why the private citizens should not be as
protected as public employees.
Sen. Waddoups said he does not feel that this is an issue that needs a lot of study at this point
and he is not convinced that there is an additional need. He indicated that he does not think this is
an area that would be appropriate for Utah to be a leader in setting reform.
Sen. Buhler suggested three alternatives for the committee to take regarding this issue: 1) do
nothing; 2) to make a motion that a bill be drafted creating a task force to study this issue during the
1998 interim; or 3) to have a member of the committee file a bill on this issue.
MOTION: Sen. Buhler moved that a bill be drafted forming a task force to study employee protection related to whistleblowing in the public and private sectors during the 1998 interim. The
motion passed. Sens. Mayne and Wharton voted in opposition to the motion.
4. Statutes Governing Business Entities - Ms. Mary Catherine Perry, Research Analyst, reviewed current and proposed statutory regulations for business entities and distributed copies of
her comments to committee members.
a. Limited Liability Companies - Rep. John L. Valentine gave the committee some background information on the Limited Liability Company Act.
Mr. Bruce Olson, Ray Quinney & Nebeker, indicated that a committee has been formed
under the Business Section of the Utah State Bar and has met several times to consider whether Utah
should adopt the Uniform Act and, if so, which provisions should be adopted or amended. The
committee is considering suggesting to the Legislature that Utah adopt this law for the following
reasons: 1) it organizes the provisions governing limited liability companies (LLC) in a fashion that
makes it much easier to deal with; 2) it has a number of default rules so that limited liability
companies that do not have operating agreements will have certain provisions that must be followed;
and 3) it indicates what provisions of an operating agreement control the provisions of the statute.
He also stated that the statute clarifies that there can be one LLC member. The Uniform Act also
gives commentary on each of the provisions which provide a legislative history that is helpful to
members, managers, and judges when cases come to controversy. One of the issues the committee
will be looking at is what kind of a grandfather rule would the state have and would the act be
effective immediately or after a year or more to give the state time to review and analyze its
provisions prior to making it effective.
b. Partnerships - Sen. Lyle Hillyard told the committee that the Uniform Partnership Law has been in existence since 1914 and is becoming very antiquated, not only in how it is written, but
in how it is being used. He said that the LLC is taking the place of the Uniform Partnership Law and
that will be the main business thrust. However, the Uniform Partnership Law remains important for
those who choose to operate as a partnership and because it would likely govern business
relationships when there has been no formal selection of a business structure. Sen. Hillyard
indicated that the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws would like to pass
the Uniform Partnership Law as it is, but in the context of more current business forms like LLCs.
Mr. Chris Anderson, Holland & Hart, gave an overview of the Uniform Partnership Act and
indicated that they have circulated copies of this statute to the business community, different
organizations, and the Utah State Bar and have received positive feedback from these organizations
and entities. They have also met with the Department of Commerce Division of Corporations and
Commercial Code to make sure the division is comfortable with what they are doing.
Sen. Hillyard told the committee that it is his intention to file a bill that will be tied in with
the Limited Liability Company bill.
c. Nonprofit Organizations - Sen. Hillyard stated that a number of lawyers involved in the area of nonprofit organizations have indicated to him that the nonprofit law is outdated, so the
commissioners are in the process of updating it.
Mr. Bruce Olson, Ray Quinney & Nebeker, stated that they have a list of attorneys who have
expressed an interest in forming a committee to review and clarify the nonprofit statute. Some of
the changes the committee would review are: 1) standards of care and conduct among the trustees
and members of nonprofit corporations; 2) procedures for amending and restating articles of
incorporation; 3) statutes that govern churches; and 4) conflicts between the Business Corporation
Act and the nonprofit statute.
5. Beer Industry Distribution Act - Ms. Patricia Owen, Associate General Counsel, gave an overview of two issues: 1) the beer wholesaler/brewer relationship; and 2) legislative developments.
She distributed copies of her comments to the committee members.
Sen. Leonard Blackham stated that 29 states mandate exclusive territories, and of these 29
states, only Utah does not have a franchise protection law for the beer industry. He indicated that
the purpose of the Utah Beer Industry Distribution Act is to strengthen the three-tier system
(supplier/brewer, wholesaler/distributor, retailer) in Utah by establishing regulations that promote
good faith and fair dealing in the business relationship between suppliers and wholesalers of beer.
He distributed copies of the bill to the committee and gave a brief summary of its intent.
Sen. Poulton expressed concern about the impact this would have in the private sector and
the free market place when the Legislature interferes this way. Sen. Blackham explained that the
decision of the competition, the right to be a wholesaler, and the right to distribute beer is separate
from this bill and is a decision that was made in the state several years ago. The distributorship of
beer is a tier system where brewers cannot market directly in the state and it limits competition. This
bill does not limit competition, but restricts the brewers' ability to change wholesalers without
complying with certain standards or procedures.
Mr. M. Byron Fisher, attorney for Anheuser-Bush, discussed the interaction between the
brewers and wholesalers during the interim and indicated that the bill presented at the meeting has
not been reviewed by the brewers and is not yet ready for introduction. It is their request that they
be permitted some additional time to meet again with the wholesalers before this committee takes
action on the bill.
Mr. Robert Hill, attorney for beer wholesalers, stated that this bill was originally introduced
in January of the 1997 legislative session. About half of the current bill consists of changes that
were requested by the brewers. The remaining points of the bill are not new, but are the same points
on which the wholesalers and brewers have continued to disagree. The wholesalers support this
version of the bill. Many of the changes the brewers have suggested have been adopted in the bill,
but the wholesalers cannot accept some of the requested changes. The purpose of the bill is not to
level the playing field, but to get the wholesalers on to the same playing field. The brewers still have
all of the economic power in this relationship. The beer industry in Utah is not a free market
business, but a highly regulated business and this bill gives wholesalers some protection because
they lack the flexibility that they would have if the industry was a freely competitive business.
Sen. Blackham indicated that there are three issues that are unresolved with the brewers: 1)
retroactive application; 2) the notice of termination provision; and 3) arbitration.
MOTION: Rep. Bradshaw moved to approve the Utah Beer Industry Distribution Act bill as a committee bill. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne was absent for the vote.
MOTION: Rep. Zolman moved to adjourn the meeting at 11:20 a.m. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne was absent for the vote.
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