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Business, Labor, and Economic Development Interim Committee

MINUTES OF

BUSINESS, LABOR, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTERIM COMMITTEE

Wednesday, October 22, 1997 - 9:00 a.m. - Room 403 State Capitol


Members Present:
    
Sen. L. Steven Poulton, Chair
    Rep. Peter C. Knudson, Chair
    Sen. Eddie "Ed" P. Mayne     Sen. Michael G. Waddoups
    Sen. Blaze D. Wharton
    Rep. Gerry A. Adair
    Rep. Eli H. Anderson
    Rep. Patrice M. Arent
    Rep. Steven Barth
    Rep. Afton B. Bradshaw
    Rep. Katherine M. Bryson
    Rep. Don E. Bush
    Rep. Bradley T. Johnson
    Rep. Brad King
    Rep. Glenn L. Way
    Rep. David L. Zolman, Sr.


Members Absent:
    Sen. David L. Buhler    
    Rep. Wayne A. Harper
    
Staff Present:
    
Mary Catherine Perry,
        Research Analyst    
    Patricia Owen,                 Associate General Counsel     Beverlee LeCheminant,
        Legislative Secretary


Note:    Names of others present and copies of information distributed at the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.     Call to Order - Sen. Poulton called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m.

2.     Committee Business -

     MOTION: Rep. Adair moved to approve the minutes of the August 20, 1997 meeting. The motion passed unanimously. Reps. Barth, Johnson, King, Way, and Zolman were absent for the vote.

3.    Report - Mr. Val A. Finlayson, Chair of the Reorganizing Committee for the State Advisory Council on Science and Technology (Council), reported to the committee on the Council's progress in improving the efficiency and effectiveness of working with the Legislature and executive branches of government. Governor Leavitt has challenged the Council to come up with some ways on how it can be more effective to the Legislature. The Council has proposed three recommendations: 1) the Council should report to both the Governor and the Legislature; 2) the Council could be more effective if it is modeled after the National Research Council, (which is made up of small task forces that address technical issues and prepare short reports for the Legislature); and 3) the Council should be reorganized so that every member is an active scientist working in the field. The Council took these recommendations to the Governor who then asked that they be implemented immediately. The Governor asked that all members of the Council resign and new members have been appointed who are active scientists in the state today. These recommendations were also presented to the speaker of the House and the president of the Senate and they suggested that, at some point, the statute be

changed to allow the Governor to appoint Council members and the Legislature to approve them. By doing this, the Legislature would have a stronger part in the Council.

        Ms. Suzanne Winters, Ph.D., distributed a pamphlet regarding a science symposium "Learning from the Land" that the Council is co-hosting with the Bureau of Land Management and discussed the Council's work related to the Escalante Staircase Monument.

4.    Whistleblower Protections - Rep. Afton Bradshaw reminded the committee that this issue has been discussed at the last two interim meetings and that a motion was made to prepare legislation creating a task force to study whistleblower laws. She explained the intent of the proposed legislation.

    Committee discussion followed.

        Mr. Larry Bunkall, President, Utah Manufacturers Association, said he hopes that there will be some consideration of having more than one member on the task force representing employer interests.

     MOTION: Rep. Arent moved to pass the "Task Force on Whistleblower Protections" legislation out as a committee bill. The motion passed. Sen. Waddoups voted against the motion. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Barth and King were absent for the vote.

5.    Demand Drafts - Sen. Lyle Hillyard explained to the committee that a demand draft is a writing not signed by a customer that is created by a third party under the authority of the customer for the purpose of charging the customer's account with a bank. He indicated that the "Demand Drafts - Uniform Commercial Code" legislation that was mailed to the committee gives customers the same power with a demand draft as it does with a check.

    Mr. Kade Peterson, Cashier, Zion's First National Bank, said that this legislation would make it possible for customers to receive their statements and review them to see if the demand draft charges are legitimate. This would give the customer's bank the chance to return the demand draft to the bank where it was deposited.

    Committee discussion followed.

     MOTION: Rep. Zolman moved to pass the "Demand Drafts - Uniform Commercial Code" legislation out as a committee bill. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Bradshaw, King, and Johnson were absent for the vote.

6.    Master Mortgage or Deeds of Trust - Sen. Lyle Hillyard explained that giving banks the authority to create master deeds of trust for filing with the county recorder's office would: 1) reduce the amount of paper work to be recorded; 2) reduce the cost of closings on the sale of real property;

and 3) give customers the document they need. One of the concerns that was discussed during the July interim meeting was the potential loss of revenue for smaller counties. Sen. Hillyard stated that this concern has been worked out.

    Sen. Hillyard proposed the following amendment to the bill: Page 4, after line 18, insert "Nothing in this part modifies the law regarding the effectiveness of a mortgage, trust deed, or contract as between: (a) the mortgagor and mortgagee of the mortgage; or (b) the trustor, beneficiary, and trustee under a trust deed." He indicated that the amendment makes it clear that a master mortgage or deed of trust will not affect the rights of the person who actually signed the instrument.

    MOTION: Rep. Arent moved to accept the amendment to the "Master Deeds of Trust or Mortgages" bill. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Rep. Johnson were absent for the vote.

     MOTION: Sen. Wharton moved to pass the "Master Deeds of Trust or Mortgages" legislation out as a committee bill. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Adair, Johnson, and King were absent for the vote.

7.    Insurance Law Changes - Sen. Poulton informed the committee that the "Insurance Law Changes" bill that was mailed to them is a bill that the Insurance Department presents to the Legislature to update the statute regarding insurance laws.

    Deputy Commissioner Neil Gooch, Department of Insurance, indicated that there are two substantive changes in the proposed bill as well as some technical and stylistic changes. One change deals with the notice that an individual receives when a replacement policy is returned. That time period has been increased from 10 days to 20 days, which will make that time period in line with other states. The other change addresses the residency requirements of the comprehensive health insurance pool.

     MOTION: Sen. Waddoups moved to pass the "Insurance Law Changes" legislation out as a committee bill. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Bradshaw, King, and Johnson were absent for the vote.

8.    Substance Abuse Prevention, Enforcement, and Treatment Funding - Rep. Nora Stephens reminded the committee that a study group was organized in June to study substance abuse prevention, enforcement, and treatment funding. She indicated that the study group has had several meetings and the outcome of those meetings is draft legislation titled "Substance Abuse Prevention, Enforcement, and Treatment Funding." She distributed copies of the draft legislation and explained the intent of the legislation.

    Mr. Ferris Groll, Department of Public Safety, spoke in support of the bill.

    Mr. Richard Schwermer, Administrative Office of the Courts, spoke in support of the bill.

    Mr. Patrick Fleming, Director, Utah County Department of Human Services, spoke in support of the bill.

    Committee discussion followed.

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to go on to the next item on the agenda. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne and Reps. Adair and Johnson absent for the vote.

9.    Limitations on Actions Related to Improvements to Real Property - Ms. Mary Catherine Perry, Research Analyst, distributed an overview of "Limitations on Actions Related to Improvements in Real Property." She stated that possible legislative options include: 1) do nothing; 2) repeal current statute; 3) extend dates related to length of liability; 4) make express exception for latent defects; 5) convert all to statute of limitations but make clear the "discoverable rule"; 6) create a bonding requirement as part of licensing; 7) create an insurance pool; and 8) require the attorney bringing suit to obtain certificates from three professionals stating that the suit has merit and is not frivolous.

    Mr. Craig Coburn, American Institute of Architects, said there are some constitutional issues regarding the proposed revisions of the statute.

    Mr. Scott Waterfall, attorney from Ogden, and Mr. James Szatkowski spoke to the issue.

    Mr. Martin Moore, Weber County surveyor, said he thinks it is important for the committee to understand that the constitutional issue is attached to the proposed revisions and, until Rep. Adair's amendment to the statute, did not attach to the statute of limitation provision. Because of the trigger date for the boundary survey statute of limitations, it has now become a constitutional issue and is why the design and construction professionals think that the boundary survey issue has to be treated separately from the design and construction statute where the boundary survey statute now appears.

    Committee discussion followed.

    Rep. Adair told the committee that he will have the interested parties meet together to discuss this issue and will bring recommendations back to the committee.

10.    2002 Olympic Winter Games - Rep. Tanner said he thinks it is time for the Legislature to take counsel from the executive branch of government and look at how to make the Olympics work for all of the people of the state. He indicated that there are actions being taken on the part of some legislators to start looking at specific legislation. It would be his plea that they as a Legislature wait to draft legislation because it would be premature at this point. He indicated that he feels that the

Legislature needs to take a positive approach to the Olympics, and that includes its dealings with the Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the Olympic Winter Games of 2002 (SLOC). Rep. Tanner said he feels that with the new appointments that have been made and with the new state coordinator in place that the legislative body has a responsibility to let SLOC move things ahead and they will see some positive changes.

    Mr. Brian Allred, Research Analyst, presented an overview of the payment of $99 million for the Winter Sports Park; compensation for state services; and policy considerations of the 2002 Olympic Winter Games. He provided committee members with printed copies of his slide presentation.

    Sen. Myrin commented that the SLOC is in the process of reworking its budget and should be finished with it in the summer of 1998. He told the committee that he and Rep. Tanner have met with John Fowler, the new state Olympic coordinator, and are impressed with the abilities and experience that he brings to the job.

    Mr. John Fowler, State Olympic Coordinator, said he appreciates the opportunity to work as the state Olympic coordinator and agrees with the comments from Rep. Tanner regarding the need to pull together to make certain that Utah hosts an outstanding 2002 Olympic Winter Games.

    Mr. Gordon Crabtree, SLOC, indicated that although the SLOC owes the state $99 million, the issues raised by SLOC's revenue stream, with 52% of the revenue coming after January 1, 2002, impacts when SLOC would like to repay the $99 million. Mr. Crabtree also explained that the SLOC is currently in negotiations with a potential bank sponsor and also a bank who will provide a line of credit. What the SLOC's expectations are, as it relates to that line of credit, will be the key in when and how it repays the state, but the bottom line is that the state will be repaid.

    Committee discussion followed.

     MOTION: Rep. Adair moved to adjourn the meeting at 12:10 p.m. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Mayne was absent for the vote.


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