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Education Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

EDUCATION INTERIM COMMITTEE

November 19, 1997 -8:30 a.m. - Room 303 State Capitol


Members Present:
    
Sen. David H. Steele, Chair        Rep. David L. Hogue
    Rep. Lloyd Frandsen, Chair        Rep. Susan J. Koehn
    Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard        Rep. Keele Johnson
    Sen. Joseph L. Hull            Rep. Patricia B. Larson
    Sen. Scott N. Howell            Rep. Evan L. Olsen
    Sen. Howard C. Nielson        Rep. Tammy J. Rowan
    Sen. Howard A. Stephenson        Rep. Richard M. Siddoway
    Rep. Sheryl L. Allen            Rep. A. Lamont Tyler
    Rep. Ron Bigelow            Rep. Bill Wright
    Rep. Duane Bourdeaux

Members Excused:
    
Rep. Judy Ann Buffmire
                
Staff Present:
    
Mr. J. Wayne Lewis, Research Analyst
    Mr. James L. Wilson, Associate General Counsel
    Mrs. Nedra B. Duzett, Secretary

Note:    A list of others present and copies of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.    Call to Order - Sen. Steele called the meeting to order at 9:05 a.m.

a.    Approval of Minutes -

    
Two corrections were submitted by staff to the October 22, 1997 minutes. Page one of the minutes, "Funding for comprehensive guidance has dramatically decreased" was changed to: "Funding for library media services has dramatically decreased," and "Administrative personnel to students in Utah is the highest in the nation" was changed to "Administrative personnel to students in Utah is the lowest in the nation."

MOTION:    
Rep. Hogue moved to approve the minutes of the October 22, 1997 meeting as corrected.. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting favorably.

b.    Committee Business

    FACT Report - Sen. Steele informed the committee that a summary FACT report was included with the agenda materials, and Ms. Terry Johnson from the Department of Human Services was present to answer questions.

    Joint Liaison Report - Sen. Steele referred to the Joint Liaison report included with the agenda materials, and noted that it provided information on governance, public awareness programs, assessment, guidance curriculum, placement tracking, performance monitoring efforts, and student guidance.

    ATE Report - Mr. Gary Ricks, Legislative Fiscal Analyst and Mr. Mike Kjar, Legislative Fiscal Analyst Office, met with representatives from the governor's office and the State Office of Education to discuss options and challenges for developing a reasonable and equitable funding formula for Applied Technology Education. Mr. Kjar referred to a study made five years ago by the State Office of Education which addressed preparation of a formula to fund ATE centers. Personnel in the state office of education, budget officers and directors of ATCs and ATSRs met over a two-year period but could not agree on a final proposal.

    A common data system is now available to provide base information about membership hours which can be equated to FTE equivalency and provide a basis for formula funding. He stated it is important for a funding mechanism and incentives to be carefully crafted to ensure that desirable outcomes are attained.

    Mr. Kjar said a review of the role and mission of the ATCs would be important in relation to the high growth rates. The principle questions are: how does the Legislature want to view the development of Applied Technology Education and should there be limits on growth.

    Class Size Reduction - Ms. Lori Chivers, Deputy Superintendent of Public Instruction, said the State Office of Education has been working closely with the National Center for Educational Statistics to develop common definitions class size reduction data. Staff members in the state office are addressing the issue but currently do not have information available to tie in with national definitions. Consequently statistical outcomes may be distorted. The state office will mail a report to each committee member in the next few weeks.

    Educational Technology Initiative Revisited - Mr. Wilson pointed out changes in the current law on lines 18 and 19 of the proposed bill. He said the language identifies the ETI funding through the Minimum School Finance Program. Lines 26 and 27 indicate higher education will receive its ETI money through a line item in the general appropriation's bill.

MOTION: Rep. Frandsen moved the Education Interim Committee endorse and recommend the bill, Educational Technology Initiative Amendments as a committee bill for introduction in the1998 General Session. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting favorably.

2.    Adult Education Formula Report - Mr. Larry Horyna, State Office of
Education, said the State Office of Education and the Utah Adult Education Advisory Committee

are completing a detailed review of the current adult education plan prior to making recommendations for modifying the adult education funding formula. He said the formula is complicated and data collection has been difficult. The state office and the advisory committee are developing additional hard data to modify the current formula. The two groups plan to have their recommendations completed and ready for the 1999 General Session. Sen. Steele said he is acquainted with the current formula based on performance competencies, attendance and outcomes and is aware of its complexities. He commended the state office and the advisory committee's effort to reduce the complexities within the current distribution system to make it efficient and effective as possible.

3.    Centennial Charter Schools Task Force Report - Rep. Brian R. Allen, cochair of the Centennial Charter Schools Task Force, said although the task force worked hard during the interim to moved towards a positive solution, it had not yet prepared its final recommendations for the Legislature. He said 15 elements or components of charter schools have been adopted by the task force and are included with the committee agenda packet. He referred to several items on the list of task force recommendations and said the task force will meet in December to review its recommendations for the 1998 General Session.

4.    Strategic Planning for Public and Higher Education Task Force Report -
Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard and Rep. Kevin S. Garn, cochairs of the Strategic Planning for Public and Higher Education Task Force, reported to the committee that the task force is proposing several changes to the current strategic planning law. The task force is recommending the mission statement for public and higher education be revised. Sen. Hillyard said Utah is one of the few states in the nation to enact a statutory strategic plan for public and higher education. He said many positive changes have occurred in public education over the past seven years since the task force was created and strategic planning has made a significant difference in those changes. Class-size has been reduced, technology use has increased, and educational partnerships with businesses have increased. A final legislative draft had not been prepared for committee review and endorsement.

5.    Middle Schools Legislation -Legislation to establish a task force to study middle school problems during the 1998 interim period was proposed in response to a review of middle school concerns during the interim period. Another recommendation resulting from committee review was preparation of legislation to reduce class size in the state's middle schools.

    The states's education community, including the State Office of Education and the Office of the Governor support this proposed legislation and feel it offers an opportunity for positive changes in middle schools throughout the state.


MOTION: Rep. Hogue moved that the committee approve the legislation to create a Middle School Task Force as a committee bill. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting in favor of the motion. Sen. Howell, Sen. Stephenson, and Rep. Larson were absent for the vote.

    The committee next discussed class size reduction legislation for middle schools in grades 7 and 8. The State Office of Education reported that class size reduction in both grades would require funding of at least $13.6 million. The committee learned the governor is supportive of class size reduction in middle schools and would propose funding in his budget document.

MOTION: Sen. Hull moved that class size reduction legislation be delivered to the 1998 General Session with a favorable recommendation. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting in favor. Senators Howell and Stephenson and Reps. Bigelow and Larson were absent for the vote.

6.    Professional Development - Sen. Steele said the Legislature needs to provide an impetus to improve teacher education programs within the state. The committee discussed a proposed resolution focused on this issue. Mr. Brems said the Joint Liaison Committee is supportive of the proposed resolution. Supt. Scott Bean, State Office of Education, felt resolution is a positive way to address the problem.

MOTION: Rep. Siddoway moved that the committee recommend the Professional Development Resolution to the 1998 General Session. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting in favor. Senators Howell and Stephenson, and Reps. Bigelow and Larson were absent for the vote.

7.    Truancy Prevention Legislation - Rep. Bourdeaux gave an overview of proposed legislation for truancy prevention. He said truancy prevention measures will be addressed in a bill authorizing police officers to assist in strategies which will keep children in school. Proposed provisions will allow truant officers to issue truancy citations and to be authorized to work with the truant child's family before it receives a citation for the truant's behavior. Rep. Bacca spoke to the bill and provided statistical information on truant children.

    There were several unsettled issues with the proposed bill, including substantial concern over the issuance of truancy citations. The legislation authorizes justice courts to have jurisdiction over the citation. It was pointed out that the justice court system may not be in favor of assuming this responsibility. There is also a problem in properly identifying children who are out in the community but may not be truant because they participate in a home school program. It was suggested that concurrent jurisdiction could be shared by municipal courts. A lengthy discussion followed about the issues of court jurisdiction and citation responsibilities.

MOTION: Rep. Bourdeaux moved that the committee endorse the truancy legislation and recommend it be sent to the 1998 General Session.

    The committee expressed further concern with identification of dual enrollment children and problems with citation enforcement. Rep. Tyler recommended the proposed legislation be sent to another committee.

SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Rep. Koehn moved the committee move to the next item on the agenda. The motion passed with Reps. Rowan, Tyler and Frandsen, and Sen. Hull voting against the motion. Senators Hillyard, Howell, and Nielson, and Reps. Bigelow, Larson, and Olsen were
absent for the vote.

    Sen. Hull recommended that a consensus truancy bill be prepared which could come before the Legislature early in the session.

8.    Computer Reconditioning Program - Rep. Allen explained a program to encourage businesses to donate their outdated computers to the Utah Prison Industries to be reconditioned for use in Utah public schools. Computers would be collected by the Department of Corrections and taken to the Gunnison Correctional Facility for repair and reconditioning by prison inmates. The updated computers would be sold to public schools for $100.00 each. The program would initially require $500,000 for start-up costs.

    Sen. Stephenson felt the program would be the ultimate in a business/education partnership. Prisoners learn new skills and provide a product badly needed by public schools. He noted that the California and Nevada Taxpayers Association have helped promote this program in their respective states and it has been very successful. He requested language in the bill that would require a district to buy two new computers before they could purchase a reconditioned $100.00 computer.

MOTION: Rep. Allen moved the proposed bill be recommended to the 1998 General Session.

    Mr. Gary Carlston said the governor is interested in the bill. The committee discussed concerns with the program. Following discussion, Sen. Allen moved to amend the bill.

AMENDED MOTION: Rep. Tyler moved the bill be sent to a standing committee for further input rather than sent directly to the floor. The motion passed unanimously with all present voting in favor.

9.    Adjournment - MOTION: Rep Hogue moved to adjourn the meeting at 12:05 p.m.


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