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Transportation Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

TRANSPORTATION INTERIM COMMITTEE

        
Wednesday, April 22, 1998 - 9:00 a.m. - 403 State Capitol


Members Present:
    Sen. John P. Holmgren,
        Senate Chair
    Rep. Marda Dillree
        House Chair
    Sen. Eddie "Ed" P. Mayne
    Sen. David H. Steele
    Sen. Nathan C. Tanner
    Rep. Gerry A. Adair
    Rep. Brian R. Allen
    Rep. Trisha S. Beck
    Rep. Ralph Becker
    Rep. Ron Bigelow
    Rep. DeMar "Bud" Bowman
    Rep. Don E. Bush
    Rep. Brad King
    Rep. Peter C. Knudson
    Rep. Joseph G. Murray
    Rep. Lowell A. Nelson
    Rep. Richard M. Siddoway
    Rep. David Ure
    Rep. David L. Zolman, Sr.



Members Absent:
    Rep. Gene Davis
    Sen L. Alma Mansell

Staff Present:
    Benjamin N. Christensen,
        Research Analyst
    Dee S Larsen,
        Associate General Counsel
    Junie G. Anderson,
        Committee Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.     Committee Business _ Chair Dillree called the meeting to order at 9:09 a.m. Members of the committee and staff introduced themselves.

    MOTION: Rep. Bowman moved to approve the minutes of the November 19, 1997 meeting. The motion passed unanimously with Sen. Tanner, Rep. Allen, Rep. Knudson, Rep. Nelson, and Rep. Ure absent for the vote.

     MOTION: Rep. King moved to request Legislative Management Committee approval for three additional Transportation Interim Committee meetings to accommodate the extra work required for the highway jurisdiction and funding study. The motion passed unanimously with Rep. Nelson, and Rep. Ure absent for the vote.

2.     Report of Transportation Bills Passed During the 1998 General Session _ Dee Larsen, Associate General Counsel, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel, (OLRGC), discussed the transportation bills passed during the 1998 General Session. A list of the bill summaries were provided to the committee prior to the meeting. He suggested that S.B. 50,

"Property Taxes-Uniform Fees and Certified Tax Rate," be added to the list since it is transportation- related.
        
3.     Discussion of Priority Study Items for the 1998 Interim _ Ben Christensen, Research Analyst, OLRGC, briefed the committee on possible study items for the upcoming interim period. He distributed a handout titled, "Utah Tomorrow and Interim Committee Prioritization." He suggested that the handout be considered to assist members of the committee in selecting study items. Chair Dillree recommended that each member choose four topics and return their prioritized choices to the staff. She said the results would be tabulated and a request made to the Legislative Management Committee based on the survey.

4.    I-15 Reconstruction/Centennial Highway Fund Update - Federal Funding Status _ Thomas R. Warne, Utah Department of Transportation, (UDOT), gave an update on the progress of I-15. He said UDOT is ahead of schedule and is under budget. He said that last month the State Transportation Commission made available $1.5 million from the state infrastructure bank, which is money set aside for state or local communities to borrow in order to advance important projects within their jurisdictions.

    Mr. Warne said that the U. S. Senate and the House are in the process of appointing members to the conference committee to resolve differences in the two versions of the new six-year transportation funding bill. Both versions provide substantial increases in funding for Utah transportation projects.

5.    Highway Jurisdiction and Funding _ Dee Larsen, OLRGC, briefed the committee on two bills - S.B. 176, "Highway Jurisdiction and Funding," and S.C.R. 6, "Highway Transfer Process Resolution." Ben Christensen, OLRGC, discussed a handout titled, "Highway Jurisdiction and Funding Maps."

    Thomas R. Warne, UDOT, gave a slide presentation pertaining to the issue of highway jurisdiction and funding. He expressed concern that the transfer of highways between jurisdictions may not be a good idea if it costs less but will decrease efficiency or level of service.

    Clint Topham, UDOT, also provided comments on the funding issue.

    Richard Manser, UDOT, Statewide Planning, provided names of members of the two S.C.R. 6 committees _ the technical group and the funding group.

    Chair Dillree said the state would not insist that counties or cities take roads without funding to maintain them.

    Brent Gardner, Utah Association of Counties, said his office would make arrangements for members to visit highway areas of interest in the state. He expressed concern about how many miles of highway would be transferred, how they would be transferred, and how the transfer would be funded. He also said that if adequate funding is not provided, county officials' only recourse would be to raise property taxes in order to raise funds for county road maintenance, otherwise, the roads would go without maintenance.

    Clyde Naylor, Director, Utah County Public Works, distributed a handout titled, "Counties Jurisdictional Transfer Subcommittee of The Joint Highway Committee - Principles," and recommended that any transfers should be based on certain principles outlined in the handout. He also said that the handout includes recommended principles to maintain highway network integrity.

    Lee King, City Administrator, Midvale City, Utah League of Cities and Towns, agreed with the comments of the previous presenters. He suggested that the process for handling unfunded capital projects, not currently on the State Transportation Improvement Plan, be addressed along with the procedure that the state would use to give aid to the local communities in case of a catastrophic failure.

    Wilbur R. Jefferies, Wasatch Front Regional Council, said that in the interest of time, he concurred with the statements made by the others and suggested that trip reduction management be considered for discussion in the process.

    Richard Thorn, Associated General Contractors, proposed that the private sector be included in the decision process of roadway jurisdiction and funding.

    Garth Beckstead, Utah Public Employees Association, said that their members are watching this issue carefully and anticipate involvement in the future.

6.    Other Committee Business _ Chair Dillree informed the committee that there would be a work session to go over issues on the jurisdictional transfers in the near future.

7.     Adjourn _
    
    MOTION: Rep. Adair moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously at 11:41 a.m. with Sen. Tanner and Rep. Allen absent for the vote.




            


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