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Political Subdivisions Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS INTERIM COMMITTEE

Wednesday, May 20, 1998 - 2:00 p.m. - Room 414 State Capitol



Members Present:
    Sen. R. Mont Evans, Senate Chair
    Rep. David Ure, House Chair
    Sen. Leonard M. Blackham
    Rep. John B. Arrington
    Rep. DeMar "Bud" Bowman
    Rep. Craig W. Buttars
    Rep. Blake D. Chard
    Rep. Greg J. Curtis    
    Rep. Marda Dillree
    Rep. John E. Swallow
    Rep. Richard L. Walsh


Members Excused:
    Sen. George Mantes
    Rep. Brian R. Allen
    Rep. David L. Gladwell
    Rep. James R. Gowans

Staff Present:
    Mr. Joseph Wade,
        Research Analyst
    Mr. Robert H. Rees,
        Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Joy L. Miller, Secretary



     Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.


1.    Call to Order and Committee Business - Rep. Ure called the meeting to order at 2:10 p.m.

     MOTION: Sen. Evans moved to approve the minutes of April 22, 1998. The motion passed unanimously.

2.    Private Property Rights - Mr. Craig Call, State Property Ombudsman, distributed information on private property rights and examples of categories for potential legislative consideration. He reviewed the circumstances under which property can be taken and when compensation must be made. Mr. Call reviewed several issues that the Legislature may want to consider. These include takings assessments by state agencies and misstatements of statute. He indicated that clarification of issues and rights as well as practical enhancements of existing statutes are other issues to be considered. Mr. Call noted the Utah Constitution states that property rights shall not be taken or damaged for a public purpose without just compensation. The Utah courts have declared that in order for there to be compensable damaging of property there has to be some physical intrusion. He discussed a situation concerning a Salt Lake City retail business. The business is surrounded by I-15 construction. However, I-15 and its improvements have not needed any property from the businessman. The business currently sits approximately ½ mile away from a paved road and has lost 80 percent of its business. The Attorney General and others involved in the owner's claim have declared that since UDOT made no physical entry on the property, the businessman will receive no compensation. That is an

issue the Legislature may want to visit. He distributed copies of photographs of the area in question.

    Rep. Olsen stated that individual property rights are sacred. It is important that the committee review the laws pertaining to these rights.

    Rep. Bowman expressed his appreciation to Mr. Call for his assistance and quick resolution of a problem experienced by one of his constituents.

    Sen. Blackham asked the committee to proceed cautiously to avoid opening the state up to a cost and compensation issue which is probably immense in size.

    Rep. Buttars indicated he would pursue legislation to address the misstatement of statute issue.

    Sen. Evans requested members contact Mr. Call, Rep. Olsen, or the chairmen with any specific issues they want to address legislatively.

3.    Optional Forms of County Government - Mr. Wade distributed information on the historical developments and overview of county governments in other states. He explained that the information he is presenting is from several legal treatises. In the United States, the development of our county is historically related to the English county administration of the 17th century, when English colonies were planted in North America. However, US counties have evolved and now vary dramatically. Historically, the county was solely the subdivision of the state, constituted to administer state power and authority. It was created without regard to local wishes and to serve as a body politic. Today, the roles, functions, powers, and relationship to the state of counties and municipalities throughout the fifty states depends upon the proper construction of the local constitutions and applicable statutes and their development as governmental units as shown in the course of judicial decisions in the particular jurisdictions.

    Mr. Wade explained that counties throughout the United States have common points of resemblance, but frequently their respective duties, powers, and liabilities are widely variant. For example, in some states, counties have a corporate status while in other states counties have a quasi-corporate status. Corporateness may be defined as the legal capacity of an entity, other than a natural person, to act. Municipalities have corporate status. Mr. Wade pointed out that there is some form of county home rule in about 21 states. He noted that it is generally agreed that counties are legal subdivisions of the states created for government purposes. However, beyond that, American courts do not agree in the characterization of counties. He reviewed some policy questions that the committee may want to consider.

    Mr. Rees stated originally counties were viewed largely as administrative arms of the state, however, in recent years legislation has been enacted which gives counties the authority to provide municipal services. Prior to 1973 the constitution required that county government be uniform throughout the state. The constitution was amended to require the Legislature to prescribe optional forms of county government and to allow each county to select, subject to referendum, the prescribed optional form which best serves its needs. The language can be interpreted to mean that the forms outlined are the only forms that can be selected by a county. Mr. Rees reviewed optional forms of county government in Idaho, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Virginia.

    Mr. Karl Hendricksen, representing Utah Association of Counties, explained Mr. Brent Gardner was not available to attend the meeting. He stated that counties recognize a dual role. They are clearly agents of the state and bring state services by contract to the local Populus. Counties have also grown into the role of a municipal services provider. Currently there are a number of alternative structures available for counties to adopt. The view of the association is that more counties would change their form, however, most of the forms available are too extreme and radical to be fully accepted by the populus or the counties themselves. He said they have a desire to create some sort of charter form of county government that would allow some flexibility. It would require a constitutional amendment to allow a charter form.

    Rep. Ure requested that the chairmen be allowed to meet with the Association of Counties to discuss legislative options.

4.    Legislative Audit - Copperton Improvement District - Mr. Tim Osterstock, Office of Legislative Auditor General, distributed a new report which includes the Copperton Improvement District (CID) board response. He said the auditor's office has concluded its report of allegations against the CID that surfaced during the last general session. As a result of the review, the auditor believes that the CID has failed to follow sections of the Utah Code that pertain to the operation of special districts and that CID has been lax in maintaining internal management controls. He noted CID's failure in these areas has resulted in inappropriate activities and that such failures are possible given the lack of oversight placed on special districts. Study of oversight by the Legislature is indicated.

    Mr. Osterstock explained that CID currently is embroiled in legal proceedings with its former water manager who presented the allegations during the last session. The auditor has attempted to separate its work from the exchange between the two parties. He said the concern has been with the organization's operation as it relates to the Utah Code and to good management practices. The review was based on preexisting district documents and independent third party sources.

    Mr. Osterstock explained that the Utah Code, without exception, prohibits board members from being employed by special districts. CID has employed board members on a part- time and emergency basis for a number of years. He said the board chairman exhibited inappropriate behavior by awarding district work to his stepson. Mr. Osterstock indicated that the lack of effective internal controls has resulted in the use of CID assets by the board chairman and in missing and unaccounted district property. He noted that poor inventory and asset controls dating back ten years have resulted in $25,000 of missing assets which is currently under investigation by the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office.

    Sen. Evans stated that he felt the report would impact the criminal charges. He expressed concern that the report should have been postponed until after the criminal process was completed.

    Mr. Welsh said their process is not to wait for the criminal processes to determine what facts can be presented in their report.

    Mr. Russell Ray, past Chairman of the CID board, stated those on the board try very hard to do their best. Situations could have been handled differently with more education.

    Rep. Swallow agreed that those who serve in these capacities and innocently break the law should be protected. However, people should be responsible for the office they hold. The Legislature should consider what can be done to help people in these positions be more responsible.

    Mr. Jan Furner, Executive Director, Utah Association of Special Districts, stated they have an ongoing education and training responsibility. Information is sent to districts in the state. It is difficult if the local board will not initiate the request and participate with them.

5.    Special Districts - Rep. Ure stated the Legislative Management Committee did not approve the committee's request for a Special Districts Subcommittee. During the last interim the subcommittee reviewed the procedure for creating a special district. He referred to the template for recodification of special district statutes found on page 12 of the packet.

    Rep. Dillree noted the subcommittee felt strongly that the board should be elected, not appointed unless the county or other entity was overseeing it as well.

    Mr. Dave Ovard, Utah Association of Special Districts, indicated he did not know if there were greater problems with those that have elected boards over those that have appointed boards.
    Mr. Fred Finlinson, attorney with Callister, Nebeker, & McCullough, stated if the focus is

only on the creation of new districts there will be a different discussion than if the concepts are going to be applied to existing districts. Mr. Finlinson said the districts he represents are willing to work closely with the full committee.

    Mr. Paul Ashton, attorney with Boyack Ashton, said it was his understanding that the committee was going to try to seek to bring a uniformity among the different districts under Title 17A. If a law is passed that only applies to new districts, there will not be uniformity.

    Mr. Ken Minson, Chairman of the Utah Association of Special Districts, stated that appointed individuals are made to be accountable. The elected body puts the appointed people in place and there is a process to take them out.

    Rep. Ure suggested the committee discuss the item concerning governing bodies at the next meeting. He recommended the committee not discuss the fiscal operations issue until next year since it would take too much time. The remainder of the issues listed on the template could be addressed during the year.

    Mr. Wade distributed copies of the policy statements developed by the Special Districts Subcommittee last year.

    Rep. Swallow requested the committee specifically consider the policy statements at the next meeting.

     MOTION: Sen. Evans moved to adjourn the meeting at 4:40 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.



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