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Political Subdivisions Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS INTERIM COMMITTEE

Wednesday, June 17, 1998 - 2:00 p.m. - Room 414 State Capitol



Members Present:
    Sen. R. Mont Evans, Senate Chair
    Rep. David Ure, House Chair
    Sen. Leonard M. Blackham
    Rep. John B. Arrington
    Rep. DeMar "Bud" Bowman
    Rep. Craig W. Buttars
    Rep. Blake D. Chard
    Rep. Greg J. Curtis
    Rep. Marda Dillree
    Rep. David L. Gladwell
    Rep. John E. Swallow
    Rep. Richard L. Walsh


Members Excused:
    Sen. George Mantes
    Rep. Brian R. Allen
    Rep. James R. Gowans

Staff Present:
    Mr. Joseph Wade,
        Research Analyst
    Mr. Robert H. Rees,
        Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Joy L. Miller,
        Secretary


     Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.


1.    Call to Order and Committee Business - Sen. Evans called the meeting to order at 2:10 p.m.

2.    Delay Inauguration of Certain Elected Officials in 2002 - Rep. Ure explained that he received calls asking the committee's consideration of delaying the inauguration of certain elected officials by six weeks in 2002 so that those currently serving could represent their cities during the Olympics. He pointed out that the constituents of each city must be allowed to vote on whether or not to extend the term. Checks and balances should be established for the officials who are serving only for an additional six weeks.

3.    Building Code Inspection of Public Schools Under Construction -

    Introduction and Current Law - Mr. Wade explained that Chair Evans asked that this item be placed on the agenda because of some problems at Riverton Elementary School. Mr. Wade distributed and explained information on the current law. He also summarized the conflicting perspectives of both parents and the school district. Parents have expressed the desire that changes be made to the statute to create better checks and balances. Jordan School District maintains that the current system is working well and that current requirements on school construction are more stringent than in city/county systems. Mr. Wade also reviewed the list of requirements placed on schools by Title 53A, Chapter 20, School Construction.

    Perspectives of School Districts - Mr. Steve Peterson, Executive Director, Utah School Superintendents Association, indicated that the local boards of education have a keen interest in making sure the school buildings are safe, educationally sound, and built to last for a significant period of time. Some of the smaller districts contract either with the city or county to use their inspectors or hire an independent inspector. The larger school districts need inspectors full time. Standards imposed by the districts with their own inspectors are significantly above standards of other inspectors. Mr. Peterson stated they believe the issue to be one of local control by those elected by the people.

    Mr. Barry Newbold, Superintendent of Jordan School District, stated the district uses highly qualified inspectors with International Conference of Building Officials certification. District inspectors have Level One, or commercial, licensing from the state. This is significant, because many municipal entities have inspectors with Level 3, or residential, licensing only. The district feels it is in the best interest to have inspectors who are full-time, on-site, and relegated to specific construction jobs from beginning to end. He noted that self-inspection is not unusual. With on-site, full-time certified inspectors, inspections are available at a moment's notice. Typically, 48 hours notice is required to schedule an inspector from a municipality. Problems or issues that arise during construction can be remedied immediately because the on-site inspector understands the entire scope of the job.

    Mr. Newbold noted that new high school construction costs are estimated at $33 million which could result in inspection and plan review fees of approximately $122,000. The portion of a full-time inspector's salary who is employed by the school district with appropriate level one certifications would be approximately $15,000 for the same $33 million project. Mr. Newbold indicated that a Legislative Audit was recently conducted in Jordan School District. The purpose of the audit was to review the functioning of the district's in-house inspectors, including the certification process. The report is expected to be available in the next several weeks and he encouraged the committee to review it as part of its deliberations on this issue. He noted that the district is working through several legitimate issues with the Riverton Elementary community.

    Mr. Randy Haslem, Licensed Architect for Jordan School District, addressed the issue of the problem with the sewer line at Riverton Elementary. He indicated that the sewer line was inspected and cameraed by the sewer district prior to its burial. The grease trap was inspected by South Valley Reclamation in addition to on-site inspectors.

    Mr. Mark Brown, Executive Vice President, Interwest Construction, stated they have built in eight districts along the wasatch front. It is his belief as a contractor and a concerned parent that inspections done by the districts have the best interest of the children in mind.

    Mr. Jim King, Union Pointe Construction, said he is the project manager for the Riverton

High School currently under construction. He stated that Jordan School District inspectors are some of the finest and most qualified inspectors they have dealt with. Having inspectors on-site makes the construction go smoother.

    Mr. Gary Payne, Administrator of Facilities Management and Planning, Davis School District, noted the law passed in 1993 requiring schools to have certified inspectors for schools has improved inspections across the state. Code requirements are the same no matter what is being built. School districts do not require a more stringent code, however, they do require more stringent construction. The review process requires peer review on projects over $300,000. All school districts have the same goal which is to produce a safe, well-constructed school for children to attend. Riverton Elementary's situation does not concern inspections.

    Perspectives of Cities - Mr. Dave Spatafore, Utah League of Cities and Towns, said school districts and municipalities serve the same constituency and should have the same goal in mind. He pointed out that local governments are responsible for inspections of buildings and facilities. In order to resolve the issue the Legislature could make a major policy declaration as to how it wants school buildings to be inspected and who should inspect them.

    Mr. Ron Ivie, Park City Building Inspector, told the committee of serious problems encountered with a middle school in Park City. It is very important to have a third party review. He suggested that it is important to work through these issues as a team process.

    Ms. Jodi Hoffman, Attorney for Park City, indicated that in the past Park City has refrained from regulating school facilities construction and has waived all kinds of requirements that could be imposed on the school districts as a cooperative endeavor. The statute does exempt school districts from a variety of municipal regulations, not all. She stated there currently is no process in the public school district methodology to incorporate citizens in land use planning and building designs. Local jurisdictions and school districts should be required to plan together to create a safe public environment for the children. Municipalities should be able to enforce siting requirements so that neighbors who own property around the schools have their private property rights protected.

    Perspective of Parents of Riverton Elementary School Students - Mr. Bob Jones stated Riverton Elementary presents a major indoor air quality problem. He distributed and reviewed a list of problems experienced at Riverton Elementary. In January, 1996, Sewer District #1 discovered a 1/3 pipe sag in the restroom lateral and suggested solutions to the odor problem. Jordan School District installed a 20 foot exhaust stack against the recommendation of the sewer district. The sewer gases were being exhausted into the neighborhood at large and was affecting the general health of the neighbors which has resulted in a lawsuit against the school district. The grease trap was cleaned but not washed out to remove all septic solids. In February, 1997,

the school was evacuated. Doctors reports showed respiratory symptoms and rashes on exposed skin and indicated the children were exposed to acute unknown chemicals. He stated there have been numerous other problems associated with the school that have not been adequately addressed by the school district.

    Mrs. Elaine Jones pointed out that even though the design meets the minimum acceptable standard of the code, if there is a problem, it must be addressed. She indicated that recommendations of other agencies have been set aside by the Jordan School District. Problems have been ongoing on since Riverton Elementary opened. The fact that school districts are inspecting themselves is a concern. With an inspector on the payroll and absent a system of checks and balances, there is room for abuse of power and conflict of interest.

    Ms. Karla Martin, Riverton Elementary parent, stated they are losing 16 staff members at Riverton Elementary. These are dedicated professionals who have had their honor, integrity, and professionalism questioned. Due to the events of the past few months, they have been told by a school board member that 75 transfer requests have been submitted by concerned parents and many other parents have seriously considered transferring their children to other area schools.

    Rep. Dave Hogue added that many issues have been raised because of the problems at Riverton Elementary which are not unique to Jordan School District. He stressed that the Legislature must decide what is best for the children.

    Rep. Dillree suggested the committee develop the issues that are critical and obtain suggestions from the community. She said she would like the committee to develop specific recommendations to bring together more cooperation between all parties.

     MOTION: Sen. Blackham moved to propose the creation of an ad hoc committee to address the problem. The motion passed with Rep. Chard voting in opposition. Reps. Ure, Arrington, and Gladwell were absent during the vote.
    
     MOTION: Rep. Bowman moved to approve the minutes of May 20, 1998. The motion passed unanimously. Reps. Ure, Arrington, Curtis, and Gladwell were absent during the vote.

     MOTION: Rep. Chard moved not to give further consideration to the delaying the inauguration of certain elected officials in 2002. The motion passed with Sen. Evans voting in opposition. Reps. Ure, Arrington, Curtis, and Gladwell were absent during the vote.

4.    Form of Government for a City Changing Classes - Mr. Rees distributed a comparison of statutory provisions among classes and the population and governing body requirements of each class. He explained that the Governor's Office of Planning and Budget periodically updates

census estimates. If a city's population increases enough to change classification, the governor issues a proclamation declaring the city to be the next class of city.

     Mr. Steve Garside, Deputy City Attorney, Layton City, noted the way the statute currently reads, it is mandatory when a city changes classification to go to the default form of government. He said they want the default provision to maintain the existing form of government through the class transition which would require a statutory change.

    Ms. Janice Auger, Mayor of Taylorsville, pointed out that they are a very new city. They recently had an election to choose an optional form of government. Now that they are approaching second class status, it seems counterproductive to start over again.

    Mr. Rees explained the code currently allows a city to change its form of government by two methods. One is by the city council or commission passing a resolution to put it to the voters. The other way is by initiative petition also to put it to the voters. The committee needs to decide if it wants to change the statute to allow the city to maintain its current form of government through the classification transition or have the city council or commission take some affirmative action to maintain that status.

     MOTION: Sen. Blackham moved that staff prepare draft legislation for consideration at the next meeting. The legislation would allow a city, when changing classification, to maintain its current form of government unless the city goes through the process under the code to change the form of government. The motion passed unanimously.

     MOTION: Rep. Swallow moved to adjourn. The motion passed unanimously. Chair Evans adjourned the meeting at 4:45 p.m.



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