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Public Utilities and Technology Interim Committee

MINUTES OF THE

    
PUBLIC UTILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY INTERIM COMMITTEE

Wednesday, July 15, 1998 - 2:00 p.m. - Room 223 - State Capitol


Members Present:
    Sen. Lorin V. Jones, Co-Chair
    Rep. Beverly Ann Evans, Co-Chair
    Sen. Mike Dmitrich
    Sen. John P. Holmgren
    Sen. Alarik Myrin
    Rep. Ralph Becker
    Rep. Orville D. Carnahan
    Rep. Gary F. Cox
    Rep. Christine R. Fox-Finlinson
    Rep. Brent H. Goodfellow
    Rep. Tom Hatch
    Rep. J. Brent Haymond
    Rep. Dennis H. Iverson
    Rep. David M. Jones
    Rep. Jack Seitz


Members Absent:
    Sen. Craig A. Peterson
    Rep. Jeff Alexander
    Rep. Daniel H. Tuttle

Members Excused:
    Rep. Swen Nielsen

Staff Present:
    Mr. Richard North,
     Research Analyst
    Ms. Tani Pack Downing,
     Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Junie G. Anderson,

     Legislative Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

1.    Call to Order - Chair Jones called the meeting to order at 2:17 p.m.

    MOTION: Rep. Haymond moved to approve the minutes of the June 17, 1998 meeting. The motion passed unanimously.
                                
2.     Telecommunication Study Survey Report - Mr. Richard North, Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel (OLRGC), distributed a handout titled "Public Utilities & Technology Committee Study List - Interim 1998," and announced the top priority issues to study according to the votes of the committee.

3.    Natural Gas Issues - City of Hildale - Mr. David Zitting, Mayor of Hildale, introduced Mr. Craig Smith, Nielsen & Senior. Mr. Smith briefed the committee on wholesale gas access and the city of Hildale becoming the local provider of natural gas to the surrounding communities. He explained his request that the Public Service Commission (PSC) require Questar Gas to provide transportation service on a firm, uninterruptible basis for Hildale. An article from the Salt Lake Tribune, dated July 14, 1998, titled "Tiny Southern Utah Town Seeks Help From PSC," was distributed.
    
    Mr. Charles Greenhawt, Questar Gas, stated that Questar is in support of the residents of Hildale receiving gas service but is concerned about whether it will be subject to dual jurisdiction

by the PCS and the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission if the city of Hildale provides gas across the border to Colorado City, Arizona. He also said Questar has offered to serve Hildale and other nearby cities.

4.    Telecommunication Issues - Local Government - Mr. Roger Tew and Mr. Scott Brian, consultants - League of Cities & Towns , gave a slide presentation on rights-of-way and franchising, and distributed handouts titled "Telecommunications Rights-Of-Way Ordinance," "Proposed Mode Excavation Permit Ordinance," a "Franchise Agreement," and a "Telecommunications Franchise Application."

    Mr. Brian also updated the committee on the adoption of model ordinances by cities in Utah. He noted that the ordinances and agreements can be accessed on the Internet. Mr. Tew also discussed cost, standards, and whether local government should have authority to regulate and sell rights-of- way access.

    Mr. Jerry Oldroyd, Suitter Axland for Electric Lightwave, Inc., said his company participated in the model ordinance process and found it successful. Mr. Gary Spendlove, US West, also spoke in support of the process.

5.    Revisiting the Utah Telecommunications Act of 1995 - Mr. Ted Smith, US West, distributed a handout titled "1995 Utah Legislation & 1996 Federal Legislation _ Current Status," and discussed the facts as noted in the handout. He addressed the purposes of the State and Federal Acts. He also reported on the status of competition and why residential competition is lagging. Mr. Smith specified that regulatory parity continues to be a major issue and that all rules should apply to all providers.

    Ms. Nancy Gibbs and Mr. Eddie Cox, Independent Telephone Providers, gave a slide presentation and distributed copies to the committee titled "Exchange Carriers of Utah." Mr. Cox discussed the services provided by independent Utah telephone companies. He also spoke about the cost of rural telephone service in Utah, why the costs are higher in rural Utah, how the rates are kept affordable to rural customers, and what needs to be done to protect the rural customer.

    Mr. Jerry Oldroyd, Suitter Axland for Electric Lightwave, Inc., indicated that the '95 State law regarding deregulation is divided into four separate parts: (1) effective entry, (2) interconnection, (3) incentives or pricing flexibility to the telecommunication companies, and (4) price regulation and effective competition.

    Mr. Oldroyd said the section in the State Act dealing with deregulation and effective competition needs to be addressed. He also said that under Utah law, any service and any company can be deregulated upon assuring that there is effective competition. In addition, he said there are

a number of areas that may qualify. However, the burden is on US West and the competitors. He also said the State Act includes a provision that any qualifying service should file an application with PSC, showing and demonstrating effective competition, before the service can be deregulated

    Ms. Claire Geddes, United We Stand, distributed an article from the Deseret News titled "Shortfall to Boost Property Taxes." She said Utah residential rate payers will be taxed in order to make up for the shortfall due to reassessment of US West properties, causing them to pay twice. She indicated that US West has an unfair competitor's advantage. She also read some competitive market issues from the Spring 1997, Anti-Trust Bulletin.

    Ms. Sue Ashdown, X-Mission, described DSLAM and explained how Internet service providers can access the service. She expressed concern that US West does not want local competitive exchange carriers to provide this service and that US West does not have to prove there is competition before price listing a new service. She also said US West has not provisioned Internet service providers, has not marketed it fairly, but is allowed to sell the service.

    Ms. Ashdown distributed several handouts, including a Deseret News article titled "US WEST practice questionable," a Salt Lake Tribune article titled "Quick Internet Connection Hit Speed Bump," a document titled "Reply Comments of the Washington Utilities & Transportation Commission." She also discussed the information as outlined in the handouts.

    Mr. Parker Garlitz, Internet Technology Systems, Inc., spoke about how the inability to obtain new DSLAM services from US West has effected his company. He said his company was unaware that the ability to provision customers would become a challenge. He also said that his company will not be able to offer DSLAM service as a result of US West not having enough provisions for his company at the central office, even though they had accepted his company's order for the service.

    Mr. Dax Kelson, Internet Connect, discussed the issue of SLAMMING. He spoke about anti- competitive behavior by US West and specified that US West refuses to allow competition by restricting local loops. He suggested that the tariffs be rewritten.

    Ms. Laurie Itkin, Sprint, indicated that the State Act appears to be fair and needs little, if any, changes. She was concerned that the market in Utah is not fully competitive.

    Mr. L. J. Godfrey, AT&T, distributed a news release titled "AT&T and TCI to Merge," and discussed the benefits of the merger.

    Mr. Jeff Fox, Crossroads, expressed concern regarding how much time will pass before residential competition arrives. He also challenged the concept that telephone rates must raise before there will be meaningful competition.

    Chair Jones recommended that Ms. Ashdown, Mr. Garlitz, Mr. Kelson, Ms. Itkin, and any others submit suggested legislative solutions to staff.

6.    Year 2000 Report - This item was not heard at this meeting but will be heard during the August 19 meeting.
    
7.    Adjournment -

    MOTION: The meeting adjourned at 5:08 p.m.


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