force establishes, the department will enforce the laws passed by the Legislature. He also suggested
that the methodology established by the task force could be applied to present occupations and
professions being licensed in a sunset review process.
Mr. Craig Jackson, DOPL, gave an overview of DOPL and indicated that one of the things
DOPL has tried to do is to help occupations and professions draft legislation to bring to the
Legislature. Mr. Jackson provided task force members with printed copies of his slide presentation.
C. Staff Briefing - Ms. Mary Catherine Perry, Research Analyst, gave an overview on state models of sunrise procedures and provided task force members with printed copies of her slide
presentation.
4. Task Force Discussion - Sen. Mansell asked the task force if it feels that a sunrise council or commission should be set up to review licensures prior to licensing a profession.
Rep. Cox said that the task force needs to avoid creating a greater bureaucracy in dealing
with this issue.
Sen. Dmitrich expressed an interest in setting up a review board to review licensures prior
to licensing a profession or occupation.
Mr. Borba said that, as the system is, the department is spending more time, resources, and
effort on looking at licensing of professions because several people are doing it simultaneously when
it could be consolidated by having a single body do it.
Rep. Cox indicated that much of the licensing process is already being done; but it is not
being recognized as a formal process. He suggested doing some minor modifications to the current
system.
Rep. Beck indicated that there needs to be an intermediate body to look at the licensing issues
before they come to the Legislature because the Legislature is not skilled in all the issues that would
need to be reviewed. The issues need to be reviewed by people who have some expertise in those
areas.
MOTION: Rep. Cox moved that the task force look at having an intermediate council or committee to review applications for licensure in the state.
Sen. Dmitrich amended the motion to include a system of reviewing the existing regulations
in the intermediate process.
The motion passed unanimously.
Sen. Mansell indicated that the task force needs to come up with some ideas for staff to craft
some models of the intermediate process in cooperation with the Department of Commerce.
Rep. Zolman suggested that one criteria to look at is what harm has the professions who are
regulated done.
Mr. Boudrero suggested having some public members on the committee.
Rep. Beck suggested that there needs to be people with expertise of the different issues on
the committee.
Mr. Samuelson said he feels that it is also important to have a balance from the private sector
because it would be advantageous both in terms of motivation to get things done and also to try to
keep the groups as free from untoward influence as possible.
Sen. Dmitrich suggested having legislators on the committee.
Sen. Mansell suggested having a member of the House of Representatives, a member of the
Senate, a member from the licensing department, and an additional four or five members from the
public who are not licensed by the state on the committee, including two members from the
profession wishing to be licensed. He indicated that in some of the professions there is a group that
is for regulation and a group that is against regulation so the task force would want to have one from
each side on the committee to present why they should be regulated or not.
Rep. Zolman suggested having members on the committee who have had the experience of
being regulated.
Mr. Boudrero suggested that with regard to the individual that comes from the division, the
division has various bureau managers with various expertise and those bureau managers could rotate
according to the expertise required.
Rep. Gladwell said he questions putting a member of the group that is requesting licensure
on the committee as a voting member of the body.
Rep. Cox said the task force needs to address a conflict of interest if it establishes a
permanent committee.
Mr. Borba suggested having an ad hoc individual on the committee who would validate the
claims of the applicants.
The task force reached a consensus of looking at having one senator and one representative
on the committee, the director of the Department of Commerce or the director's designee, and six
other appointments. The Speaker of the House would name three of the six appointments and the
President of the Senate could name the other three appointments.
Sen. Mansell asked staff to put together the suggestions from the task force and bring the
information back to the next meeting. He reminded the task force that its next meeting will be
Tuesday, August 25th at 1:30 p.m.
5. Adjourn -
MOTION: Rep. Zolman moved to adjourn the meeting at 3:35 p.m. The motion passed unanimously. Sen. Dmitrich was absent for the vote.