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MINUTES OF THE

TRANSPORTATION INTERIM COMMITTEE

        
Thursday, November 12, 1998 - 9:00 a.m. - 403 State Capitol


Members Present:
    Sen. John P. Holmgren,
        Senate Chair
    Rep. Marda Dillree
        House Chair
    Sen L. Alma Mansell
    Sen. David H. Steele
    Sen. Nathan C. Tanner
    Rep. Gerry A. Adair
    Rep. Brian R. Allen
    Rep. Ron Bigelow
    Rep. DeMar "Bud" Bowman
    Rep. Don E. Bush
    Rep. Brad King
    Rep. Peter C. Knudson
    Rep. Richard M. Siddoway
    Rep. David Ure
    Rep. David L. Zolman, Sr.



Members Absent:
    Sen. Eddie "Ed" P. Mayne

Members Excused:
    Rep. Trisha S. Beck
    Rep. Ralph Becker
    Rep. Gene Davis
    Rep. Joseph G. Murray
    Rep. Lowell A. Nelson

Staff Present:
    Mr. Benjamin N. Christensen,
        Research Analyst
    Mr. Dee S Larsen,
        Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Junie G. Anderson,
        Legislative Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.


1.     Committee Business - Chair Dillree called the meeting to order at 9:13 a.m.

    MOTION: Rep. Adair moved to approve the minutes of the October 21, 1998 meeting. The motion passed unanimously, with Sen. Mansell, Rep. Bigelow, and Rep. Ure absent for the vote.

2.     Criteria for Highways on the State Highway System - Mr. Christensen discussed the draft legislation titled "Statewide Highway Criteria," that was mailed to committee members prior to the meeting. He also distributed a handout titled "How should criteria for state highways be used?" and opened a discussion regarding the issue.

    Mr. David Spatafore, Utah League of Cities and Towns, expressed concerns about transferring highways as a result of the bill. He said that if the legislation is intended to transfer all nonconforming highways, then two new criteria must be added _ adequate funding and the local government's capacity to handle the road if it is transferred. He also stated that funding should not be left up to UDOT and the Transportation Commission, without local governments taking part in the funding recommendations.

    Mr. Thomas Warne, Utah Department of Transportation (UDOT), said he felt confidence in the Transportation Commission's ability to make good decisions about transfers and funding if the assignment is given to them.

     MOTION: Rep. King moved to insert language in the draft legislation titled "Statewide Highway Criteria," as follows:
    Page 2, line 13:    delete "and" and insert "(b) a deletion is agreed upon by all highway authorities involved in the transfer; and"
    Page 2, line 14:    delete "(b)" and insert "(c)"

The motion passed unanimously.

    Mr. Warne said the department concurs with the language in the draft legislation about what should constitute a state highway. He indicated that the best solution may be to adopt the language in the draft and encourage the commission and the communities to work together using the suggested criteria on roads that are mutually acceptable to the parties, then revisit the issues next year.

    Mr. Clinton Topham, UDOT, explained that the draft legislation is based around functional classification and is basically the same as the rule already adopted by the commission.

    Rep. Tuttle complimented Mr. Warne and his staff at UDOT for their efforts and good work on an intersection in Magna.

    Mr. Topham said that UDOT initiated a new intersection design in Magna, unique from any other in the country.

    Sen. Tanner expressed concern over the lack of representation from the Transportation Commission and recommended that a representative from the commission be invited to attend the meeting on November 18.

     MOTION: Rep. Bush moved to approve, as a committee bill, draft legislation titled "Statewide Highway Criteria," as amended. The motion passed, with Rep. Adair, Rep. Bigelow, Rep. Bowman, Rep. King, and Rep. Ure voting in opposition to the motion.
    
     MOTION: Rep. Bush moved to assign UDOT and the Department of Transportation Commission to study criteria issues as outlined in the handout titled "How should criteria for state highways be used," and make recommendations to the Legislature for final approval. The motion failed, with Sen. Mansell, Rep. Bush, Rep. King, Rep. Siddoway, and Rep. Zolman voting in favor of the motion.

     MOTION: Sen. Tanner moved that a study of issues, with the exception of the funding issue, listed in the handout titled "How should criteria for state highways be used," be assigned to UDOT and the Department of Transportation Commission. The motion passed, with Sen. Mansell, Rep. Allen, Rep. Bigelow, and Rep. Ure voting in opposition to the motion.

     MOTION: Sen. Holmgren moved to add a section to the draft legislation that would require any road transfers to be accompanied by a funding proposal, which could include an equipment transfer, before it would take place. The motion failed, with Sen. Holmgren, Rep. Adair, and Rep. King voting in favor of the motion.

     MOTION: Rep. Adair moved to reconsider the previous motion by Sen. Tanner. The motion passed unanimously.

    Sen. Tanner withdrew his motion.

3.     Other Committee Business -

4.     Adjourn -
    
    MOTION: Rep. Siddoway moved to adjourn the meeting. The motion passed unanimously, with Sen. Tanner absent for the vote.

    The meeting adjourned at 11:00 a.m.



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