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MINUTES OF THE

CHILD WELFARE LEGISLATIVE OVERSIGHT PANEL

November 24, 1998 -- 12:00 p.m. -- Room 416 State Capitol



Members Present:    
    Sen. Lyle W. Hillyard, Senate Chair
    Rep. J. Brent Haymond, House Chair
    Sen. Blaze D. Wharton
    Rep. Nora B. Stephens
    Rep. Steve Barth
    
        




Staff Present:
    Mr. Bryant R. Howe,
        Research Analyst
    Mr. R. Chet Loftis
        Associate General Counsel
    Ms. Tracey Fredman
        Legislative Secretary


Note:    A list of others present and a copy of materials distributed in the meeting are on file in the Office of Legislative Research and General Counsel.

Chair Haymond called the meeting to order at 12:00 p.m.

1.    Panel Business --

     MOTION: Rep. Stephens moved that the minutes of the November 6, 1998 meeting be approved as printed. The motion passed unanimously.

2.    Child Abuse Database Amendments
    
    a.    Mr. Chet Loftis, Associate General Counsel, distributed draft legislation entitled "Amendments - Child Abuse Database" and a handout outlining the position of the panel on the issues reflected in the legislation.

    Panel discussion followed.

    Issue 1: Should unsubstantiated or without merit reports ever be removed from the child welfare database?

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to adopt the amendment as drafted which read: "(i) a report that is without merit if no subsequent report involving the same alleged perpetrator has occurred within one year; or (ii) a report that is unsubstantiated if no subsequent report involving the same alleged perpetrator has occurred within 10 years, unless the executive director determines that there is good cause for keeping the report on the system based on standards established by rule." The motion passed. Rep. Stephens voted in opposition. Sen. Wharton was absent for the vote.

    Issue 2: What should be done with "undelivered" notices?

     MOTION: Rep. Stephens moved to amend the draft to include language which would (1) clarify the inclusion of notices that went undelivered because the addresses were unaccessible and (2) place the burden of proving that a notice went undelivered on the individual. The motion passed unanimously.

     MOTION: Sen. Hillyard moved to accept the draft with the above named changes. The motion passed unanimously.

    Issue 3: What should be done with juvenile perpetrators?

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to delete the word predatory from line 122. The motion passed unanimously.

     MOTION: Rep. Stephens moved to accept the draft with the above named changes. The motion passed unanimously.

    Issue 4: Should there be any restriction on who may ask a person to get information from the databases for screening purposes?

     MOTION: Sen. Hillyard moved to accept the draft with the addition of language that specific groups would have access to the licensing database with the understanding that these changes should be finalized by Rep. Stephens and Sen. Hillyard. The motion passed unanimously.

    Issue 5: Should an administrative law judge be permitted to make a determination based solely on a child's hearsay statement?

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to change the draft to delete line 214 and to add to line 215 a statutory reference to Title 78 and Utah Case Law. The motion passed unanimously.

    Issue 6: Should a person be a party to a judicial proceeding in order for that order to have binding effect?

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to delete lines 224 and 225 from the amendment as written. The vote passed unanimously.
    
    Issue 7: What should happen if access to or use of information on the licensing database is ever expanded?

     MOTION: Rep. Stephens moved to approve the amendment as drafted. The motion passed unanimously.

    8.    Should a prosecutor's access to the child welfare database be clarified?

     MOTION: Rep. Stephens moved to approve the amendment as drafted. The motion passed unanimously.

3.    Adjournment

     MOTION: Rep. Barth moved to adjourn the meeting at 2:10 p.m. The motion passed unanimously.



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